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Debt limits of rich countries hurt poor countries' growth, says World Bank's Malpass

Does the global financial system need a major overhaul?

In his final interview on GZERO World as president of the World Bank Group, David Malpass discusses a serious problem with host Ian Bremmer: the consolidation of economic and political power in the hands of the wealthiest countries. The world is facing a massive debt crisis––60% of low-income countries are now in debt distress or dangerously close to it. The poorest countries are paying an average of 16% of revenue on servicing loans.

Decades of low interest rates and cheap goods, followed by the pandemic and runaway inflation led countries to borrow huge sums of money. But it didn’t happen in an equitable way. Wealthy nations like the US and the European Union pumped trillions into their economies to keep them afloat. But poor nations kept borrowing money they couldn’t afford to pay back.

“The poorer countries are not catching up, and we really want a world where the people in lower income levels actually get to grow faster,” Malpass tells Ian Bremmer. “That’s what creates stability."

Malpass says that the goal of the World Bank, and any value-based society, is faster growth in poorer countries so they can catch up with advanced economies and stabilize. And that means integrating the economies of developing countries better with the West, which can at odds with nationalist economic policies like “Buy America,” near-shoring, and inshoring.

“I think there’s plenty of room in a logical world to say we don’t want dependency,” Malpass stresses, “But we also want to have a vibrant, global marketplace that is competitive. And the US needs to lead and be the starting point for a lot of this rethinking of the global system.”

Watch the episode of GZERO World with Ian Bremmer: World Bank's David Malpass on global debt & economic inequality
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Will the US default on its debt? Ask GZERO World's guests

It's the question swirling around Washington this week (and last week, and the week before, etc, etc). It's of concern to US allies and of great interest to US adversaries: Will the United States government default on its debt for the first time in history? Depending on the day of the week, or the hour of the day, you may get a different answer from politicians and pundits alike.

On GZERO World with Ian Bremmer, though, guests from the past few months, including Utah Senator Mitt Romney, World Bank Group President David Malpass, former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, and US Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, have struck a common chord: it won't happen, but if it does, we're in for a hurting. Catch GZERO World with Ian Bremmer on public television stations nationwide. Check local listings.

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US debt default would be "destabilizing," says World Bank's David Malpass

The debate in the US Congress around the debt limit and a potential default is like spending money on a credit card but refusing to pay the bill, according to David Malpass, outgoing president of The World Bank Group.

On GZERO World with Ian Bremmer, Malpass discussed the ongoing negotiations in Washington to avert a default and raise the debt ceiling before the federal government runs out of money on June 1. If the two sides can’t come to an agreement, Malpass says, the economic consequences will be “destabilizing.”

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Podcast: Conservatives no more? Why Chris Christie is criticizing Trump and DeSantis

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Listen:The upcoming GOP presidential primary will be many things – expensive, long, chaotic – but one thing we know for sure is that it won't be pretty. And one potential Trump rival, former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, is ready to embrace the ugly. In a wide-ranging interview with Ian Bremmer on the GZERO World podcast, Christie outlines the stark reality he sees as things begin to heat up on the campaign trail. "I think there's one lane for the nomination, and right now, Donald Trump's in the front of that lane," Christie tells Bremmer. "And if you want to get in the front of that lane, you better intervene and go right through him because otherwise, trying to go around him, I don't think it's a strategy."

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Chris Christie weighs in on US debt limit fight

Unless lawmakers in Washington can work out a deal to raise the debt ceiling, there will be “serious consequences for our economy,” says rumored GOP presidential candidate Chris Christie. The former governor of New Jersey spoke with Ian Bremmer on GZERO World to talk about the 2024 presidential race and the issues currently facing the Republican Party, including the House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s current fight with the White House to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for deep cuts in federal spending.

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US House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) waves after speaking to supporters on midterms election night.

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What We’re Watching: Domestic & foreign policy implications, lame-duck maneuvers, Trump 2.0?, a Lake of doubts

Probe payback incoming?

After being on the unhappy side of a raft of Democrat-led House investigations the last few years, incoming GOP House leaders are itching to launch a number of their own. Subjects may include the Biden administration’s clunky withdrawal from Afghanistan, the origins of the COVID-19 virus, the alleged politicization of the Justice Department, and of course, the GOP’s favorite target, Hunter Biden. What about impeachment? The Dems did it twice to Donald Trump. Could Republicans return the favor? Likely incoming House Speaker Kevin McCarthy says the GOP would never pursue it for “political purposes.”

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